Dr Bruce Pereira
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Hi, I understand that university fees are funded by the NHS, does this cover all fees? Also, the website states that UK/EU trainees are paid a salary, I was just looking for some more information regarding how this works? Thank you
Hi there, University of Birmingham trainees will have an NHS-funded salary on Agenda for Change Band 6. Expenses are paid to NHS funded trainees for travel within placement and research activities. Fees for NHS-funded trainees on the UOB ClinPsyD are met by Health Education England- Midlands and East. You will also get annual leave and other benefits in line with any usual NHS entitlements. There are no contractual obligations with the NHS Trust after you complete your training (information from the funding section for Birmingham University on the Clearing House website)
I would recommend reaching out to the specific courses you are looking to apply for as their arrangements may be different. Also, look at this page to see how different courses manage this. You can find general information on funding on the Clearing House website here, including information on self-funding and the latest status around EU funding regarding Brexit.
I’m unsure whether to focus on a clinical psychology doctorate, or an applied child psychology doctorate as I’m looking to pursue a career as a Child Psychologist, but would like the option to learn as much as possible to be more employable and to further my knowledge generally. Do you think the clinical doctorate is sufficient for Child Psychology, is there a module that covers this? Many Thanks
Thanks for reaching out. I would recommend the following while you are exploring your options:
- Determine what is it that you are hoping to do after you complete the doctorate, as each option may have very different employment options and career pathways. I don’t think I have ever come across a Child Psychologist that wasn’t a ClinPsyD in the UK. All the CAMHS jobs I have ever seen list the ClinPsyD as the required education/experience.
- Reach out directly to each department to explore the pros and cons of each program, especially in terms of what it is that you are hoping to do long term for work. That way you will have an absolute comparison of each.
- Research what you can actually do with each doctorate at the end.
- Research the various governing bodies (e.g. BPS, HCPC etc.) to determine what is needed to work in each area, licensure etc.
- Connect and network with people who are working in both areas to understand what a day in a life looks like, and to learn about the various pathways to your chosen area.
- Determine your timelines and preferences, and make informed decisions about what to do based on these. You could explore time taken to complete, ease of getting on to the doctorate, job availability, what you ultimately want to do and finances etc.
I don’t know much about the child psychologist doctoral pathway, but the Clinical Psychology Doctorate you would have the opportunity to train across the life cycle, so you will certainly have at least one of your clinical placements in Child and Adolescent Mental Health – you could choose your core placement in CAMHS (which would be your longest clinical placement- when I did it I believe it was 10 months at that time). You could also likely get a second specialist placement in CAMHS and even focus on child and adolescent in your learning and disability placement as long as you have demonstrated placements across the life cycle etc. There is such variation in what your placement journey would look like based on your interests and availability. I have posted my placements in a previous post. In addition to the clinical placements there is a also a lot of CAMHS topics in the course work too both as a core part of the curriculum, but also in your third year you can attend various specialist sessions, many are offered in Child. If you were interested and had a faculty to support you, you could focus your thesis and research on child psychology too. I am assuming you will have a broader training across the whole life cycle as a ClinPsyD as well as solid assessment, formulation and treatment skills, where the focus on Child Psychology Doctorate may be focused primarily on child, though I am not familiar with a Child Psychology Doctorate, so that is an assumption. The ClinPsyD is considered a professional doctorate so it prepares you well for the practical aspects of working as a clinical psychologist, where the focus is threefold i.e. your research, attending classroom sessions and practical clinical placements. ClinPsyD will make you an eligible candidate for CAMHS roles once you complete if that is where you want to take your career and can demonstrate your experience through the doctorate. Personally, I think child psychologists often benefit from understanding the full life cycle in context. I wish you well in exploring these options and your next steps towards your career goals.
Hello, I am an international student and I applied to the clinical doctorate. Were there a lot of international students in your cohort? Do you remember their age ranges ? Did you know what you were going to research before you entered the course ? Thank you for your help !
Hi, thank you for your questions. There were three international people on my cohort, though all of us had been living in the UK for a while and working for the NHS prior to joining the Doctorate. All of us were considered as home students and not international students due to this. As the clinical components occur within the NHS, in my experience your chances increase if you have working knowledge of psychology within the NHS and some experience and knowledge of how the NHS works. You can check out the specific requirements at the Clearing House website which outlines all the requirements, including fee structure and entry criteria. It is also where you will apply.
I believe that funding for international students is done on a self -funded basis rather than the NHS funding, and also has various criteria to meet to determine eligibility of your international educational transcripts and membership of the British Psychological Society etc. For these self-funded places, you will need to provide your own funding e.g. by funding yourself, by getting a scholarship, by organizing sponsorship etc. You will need to fund all your costs for the three years of training e.g. course fees, living costs, travel expenses etc. Please check the information provided by the universities to see how much their course fees are.
I believe there are around 14 or so universities that offer the ClinPsyD to international students and most require oversees finding. Check out the Clearing House Website for details. http://www.leeds.ac.uk/chpccp/internationalfunding.html
I am not sure of the exact age ranges of our cohort, I believe there was a range between early 30s and early 40’s (most already had a Master’s or a Doctorate Degree and relevant work experience).
Your topic of research is based on a number of factors e.g. Is there a University Team member and a clinical supervisor who will support and supervise your research area, will you have access to participant samples, is it relevant to clinical psychology practice and whether your research areas will be approved by the ethics committee, to name a few. Once you are on the doctorate you will be supported to create a research proposal, find your academic supervisor and go through ethics etc. It does not hurt to have an area of interest. Good luck with your application
Because you are from the United States, how did you go about getting accepted into the British Psycological Society? From my research it seems like I need to be a member of the society before applying for my Masters.
Thank you for your question. When I joined the BPS I needed two BPS members to support my application, have my international education reviewed by the BPS (with official transcripts and detailed course guidelines) to ensure it met all the requirements to get Graduate membership MBPsS and complete an application form and pay a fee. I joined the BPS already holding a Masters Degree. The detailed guidelines can be found on the BPS website as it may have changed since I did this over 10 years ago. Once you have completed the Clinical Doctorate in the U.K. you follow a similar process to be a Chartered member of the BPS and register with the HCPC. These guidelines can be found on their respective websites- again this may have changed in the past 5 years so definitely check out the latest.
Hello. Please can you tell me about the placement opportunities which are available on the doctorate? Also, please can you tell me the specialities that you have a choice in? Many thanks for your time. Best wishes, Sarah.
Thank you for your question. Placement opportunities are based on clinical supervisor availability so they change on an annual basis – so it is not possible to say which are available as I am not part of the Clin Psych Team – my suggestion would be to reach out to the Clinical Psychology school for a more up to date list – the school publishes a manual that is given to trainees at the beginning of the Doctorate outlining which placements are available, and also which supervisors are available (outlining their interests, experience and therapeutic/theoretical approaches). They generally are split into two geographic areas viz. Birmingham and Solihull; and The Black Country areas. Trainees have the option to choose the area, placements and supervisors who are offering placements (so you can also choose therapeutic approaches based on service offerings and/or supervisor approaches). The trainee also needs to complete one foundational placement which is a 10 month placement longer than the other 4 placements. The school attempts to grant all these options based on preference and interest. I was able to get all the clinical placements, geographic areas and supervisors that I requested and the area. As a clinical doctorate you have a full range of placements, so it depends on what you are looking for after you graduate. You need to choose 5 placements. At minimum your choices need to cover CAMHS, Learning Disabilities, Older Adults and Adults of Working Age – as you can imagine the actual mix of what that looks like for each trainee can be vastly different. You also get a choice of a specialty placement- which you can choose based on your interest. There are also a range of placements for Forensic opportunities if that is your interest. I can provide an example of my clinical placements to give you an idea e.g.
CAMHS – Solihull Primary Care NHS Trust / Heart of England NHS Trust – Systemic and CBT
Learning Disabilities- Dorridge, Solihull Community Learning Service – Solihull Primary Care Trust – Predominantly Behavioral
Older Adults – Solihull CMHT – Psychodynamic
Adults of Working Age – Birmingham and Solihull Mental Health Trust – Systemic/CBT/Family Therapies
Specialty – Physical Health – Oncology – University of Birmingham NHS Trust – Systemic / CBT
Also, I used to offer clinical placements and supervised trainee placements in Physical health (Oncology/Chronic Pain, Cardiac Rehabilitation) focusing on Systemic and CBT approaches.
hello, i have done my graduation in clinical psychology now i want to get enrolled in phd. i want to know what are the procedures for an international student
Thank you for your message. I completed the Clinical Psychology Doctorate (ClinPsyD) which is different to a PhD, so I am not too familiar with the process for applying to a PhD at the University of Birmingham.
You can search all Doctorate Courses at the following link to find our more specific enrollment information for the course you are interested in:
Good luck with your search and application.
Hello, I was accepted to the PhD program in Psychology studying cognitive neuroscience, I am also from the USA, I was wondering how you secured funding for your place? I am having an extremely hard time finding funding.
Thank you for your message. Firstly a huge big congratulations on getting accepted onto a PhD program.
The Clinical Psychology Doctorate is fully funded by the National Health Service and includes a salary as you are employed by the National Health Service. I am not too sure about the route for funding for PhD programs for international students. You may want to contact the University directly or ask your sponsoring professor about sources they typically use or recommend. There are some eligibility criteria and resources in this link about funding and scholarships for international students: http://www.birmingham.ac.uk/International/students/finance/scholarships/index.aspx
Good luck as you embark on the PhD journey!
Hello.. I am fathima kodakkadan already finished MSc applied psychology from pondicherry university and MSc research methods in psychology from anglia ruskin university,cambridge.Now i am interested to know about cognitive behaviour therapy high intensity postgraduate diploma on january start.but i would like to know how to get clinical supervision from nhs.
Hello Fathima, thank you for your message. I am not too familiar with the High Intensity Training Programs as I completed the Clinical Psychology Doctorate. However having worked with a few High Intensity Practitioners and done a doctoral training placement in an IAPT service, I believe that supervision is built into the High Intensity training and that the High Intensity programs work collaboratively with the NHS. I would recommend contacting the University where you hope to attend the High Intensity training and ask them what arrangements they have for supervision. I would also suggest networking with NHS high intensity practitioners who work in IAPT programs to ask their advice as they would be able to better give an idea about what it all entails. Alternatively if you are looking at applying to the University of Birmingham please follow the link that I provide below. The link provides information about the program, contact details and has an area where you can submit any program specific questions. Follow the link and read through the “Overview” and “Course details” sections which explains and outlines supervision arrangements for this particular program.
I hope this has been helpful. Good luck.
Can you tell us a little more about what talent management is, and what people are referring to when they talk about consultancy? I feel that its quite a vague term and so it can be hard to imagine what people do on a day to day basis.
Thank you for your question, Talent Management in the broadest term refers to organizational process relating to the attraction, identification, development, deployment, engagement, and staff retention. You can look up the topic of Talent Management on HR related websites such as SHRM or CIPD.
As for consultancy, it depends on the context in which you are providing it. I would suggest searching Consulting Services online, search some job descriptions and person specs of management consultants or look up the types of things that management consultants provide. It is fundamentally providing advice/consultation on what area the consultant is considered experienced in. Usually this can be done as a consultant through a management company providing advice in a particular area of business, or it could be working with other agencies or departments facilitating change processes or providing expert information/advice. Consulting contracts and services look different dependent on the situation so that may account for what you refer to as being vague.
Hello! I’m looking, urgently, a framer for admission to clinical psychology doctorate. I need to enroll next September in order not to lose my scholarship. Thank you to assist me. HATTA Ogma Herbert
Hello, thank you for your message. Could you please clarify what it is that you are looking for assistance with?
What was the highlight of your time at Birmingham?
Firstly, I think one of the highlights was being involved as an individual contributor, team member and project lead on a range of projects across a number of different care settings in and outside the National Health System. Secondly, I was fortunate to be supervised by some really inspirational leaders and supervisors. Thirdly, I think the numerous opportunities for networking, meeting and working with many different multidisciplinary professionals and leaders in and outside the National Health System was a definite highlight and has been instrumental in connections that I continue to engage with years after graduating.
Did you join any clubs or societies, go on any research trips or do any volunteering?
- In addition to the 5 required internships, I was fortunate to be able to volunteer at a non-NHS organization, where I reported to The Director Designate for Clinical Services and provided consultation on organizational change management, staff self-care, and scoping opportunities for the organization.
- I volunteered as the course management representative for my cohort for three years.
- I was a member of the Wayfarers Hiking Society; which gave me the opportunity to meet other students studying different courses at all different levels and walk in some of the UKs most beautiful natural areas.
What advice would you give to current students studying on the course?
I think that it is very important to ensure that you are able to work actively on your work—life balance and looking after yourself while managing the multiple demands of the course. Have fun. Go in open minded and open to learning new skills and ways of thinking about things, and to consolidate skills that you may already have. Get involved in being a course representative as it is a fantastic opportunity to learn about systems and leadership and to network with other professionals in the field.
How has your career developed since graduating from the University of Birmingham?
Since graduating I worked at a large acute medical hospital as a Senior Qualified Clinical Psychologist and did a brief secondment /deployment at Birmingham Healthy Minds. I also represented Macmillan Cancer Charity as a Macmillan Clinical Psychologist and also managed the Service Level Agreement for the Cardiac Psychology Department.
I provided clinical supervision to a number of trainee psychologists and was a line manager for a number of research assistants and assistant psychologists. I have also been responsible for providing mentoring and coaching to 12 senior level employees. I have been asked to design, develop and implement a range of professional trainings since graduating.
In 2013 I was nominated as HiPo Talent to attend the National Leadership Development Program, which was a collaborative effort between the NHS Leadership Academy, The Open University and Hay Management Group. During this Program, I led a leadership initiative to increase employee and patient engagement. I was rated in the top 4 of 1542 national leadership candidates, graduated with an Academic Distinction and a Post-Graduate Certificate in Healthcare Leadership from the Open University Business School. I also received an Award in Healthcare Leadership from the NHS Leadership Academy.
Since graduating I became a Certified Project Manager after completing all requirements for the Foundation and Practitioner PRINCE2 Project Management Qualifications.
I have since left the NHS to focus my attention on management consulting.
I am currently writing a book on Managerial/Workplace bullying, and a second book on facilitating change focusing on people, processes and leadership. I am an active anti-bullying advocate.
Recently I completed the Advanced Studies in Strategic Human Resource Management through Cornell University, a prestigious Ivy League University in the United States.
How did your degree prepare you for what you are doing now?
In addition to the obvious clinical competencies in assessment, formulation, intervention and evaluation, the course prepared me by consolidating and further developing previously acquired skills in:
- Leadership and management.
- Coaching and Mentoring.
- Teaching, Training and Staff Development.
- Research and Data analytics.
- Diversity and Inclusion Management
- Governance, auditing and evaluation.
- Quality assurance and management.
- Project Management.
- Change Management.